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dialogue 2 with Josephine Bosma, February 12 1997
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*** #PORT :End of /NAMES list. *** Mode is + *** jaycee has set the topic on channel #PORT to Eight Dialogues / PORT MIT / Dialogue 2 *** Mode change "+nt+l 15" on #PORT by jaycee jaycee: h jaycee: h jaycee: there jaycee: I do find that I have to keep the channel open jaycee: so I write jaycee: and write jaycee: with little in mind, and much in soul... jaycee: after Shiatsu jaycee: body talking. jaycee: body working #PORT: @jaycee *** #PORT :End of /NAMES list. *** The date is: Wednesday February 12 1997 - 10:49 -08:00 jaycee: h jaycee: h jaycee: h #PORT: @jaycee *** #PORT :End of /NAMES list. *** jesis (jesis@xs2.xs4all.nl) has joined channel #PORT jaycee: Hallo Josephine! jesis: good evening *** Mode change "+o jesis" on #PORT by jaycee jaycee: I just made you an operator on the channel... jesis: I just put my child in bed jaycee: Good night sweet dreams... jesis: you did it again jesis: I am not that dominant jaycee: well, just in the case that I get kicked off by technical failure... jaycee: I am wondering if MIT will arrive... jesis: how is life where you are? jaycee: Wellll... Okay, it is warm today -- 15-18C jesis: ah, MIT is the gallery jaycee: My back is okay, I had shiatsu yesterday jaycee: Yes, MIT LIST ART center GALLERY or something, right across from the famed Media Lab jesis: are you waiting for them? jaycee: well, they should login soon... it is 1400 their time... *** murph (artnetwebc@murph.port.net) has joined channel #port jesis: there are many medialabs jesis: not many good massages jaycee: Hallo Robbin... welcome to the Second Dialogue, this one with Josephine Bosma of Amsterdam murph: Hello Josephine jaycee: Media messages... ( jesis: can you introduce us, jaycee? jaycee: Yes, Robbin is one of the curators jaycee: , Robbin Murphy of artnetweb jaycee: in NYC murph: I'm trying to get MIT set up. Jennifer is in charge today and I'm not sure if she knows how to find an IRCnet so I may log off and help her jesis: nice to meet you jaycee: okay, I emailed another copy of the IRCnet list to you a moment ago... jesis: he cannot talk can he... jaycee: YEs, maybe, but there are four machines to link up,... jaycee: so he is busy jaycee: this seems like a fast connection... jesis: hi Robbin, thought this would be a dialogue jaycee: well, he won't be talking, just you and me... *** Mode change "+o murph" on #PORT by jaycee murph: I'll pop back on later as soon as the gallery is set up. murph: I'll lurk jaycee: okay, later! jesis: what does it look like in the gallery jaycee: So, Josephine, is Rasa there? murph: It's dark with four screens facing each other. You stand in the middle. jesis: I am surprised about the speed too jaycee: There are four machines with screen projection units hanging over them, all in the center of the room facing outwards... murph: The screens are floating with the computers below jaycee: and with rear-projection, right? jesis: my baby is coughing a lot, hope it won't be a problem. Lots of rain here today murph: yes. Very nice nView projectors jaycee: does she have a cold? murph: Gotta go now, bye jaycee: bye *** Signoff: murph () jesis: no, I saw her this afternoon, she should be in Rotterdam now jaycee: I was looking at Rasa's elab site this morning jesis: I made an appointment with Felipe Rodriguez of xs4all for her which I hope she made jaycee: I guess she studied in the Netherlands jaycee: Is x4all a private or state venture? jaycee: (just curious...) jesis: xs4all stems from the anarchist hacker collective Hacktic jaycee: ah so, the underground private sector... jesis: E-lab also want to start a netradio jaycee: Will you use Real Audio? jesis: IU hardly am familiar with mainstream scenes jaycee: I have to get a new machine at home in order to get stream audio... jesis: yes we will use that jesis: xs4all has a lot of free bandwidth jaycee: cool jesis: what do you mean with stream audio? jaycee: I have always been a radio-addict since I was very young jaycee: streaming audio is the means that Real Audio system works -- the audio data streams from the server... jaycee: like a river/stream jesis: theyare one of the best providers here in Europe I heard, because they are relatively colse to the net-backbone?? jaycee: Right, I have heard that, unlike German service providers (where, in Germany there is no backbone...) jesis: well about this streaming, it always works but sounds better or worse jaycee: I have used 8-bit Real Audio, and it is like short wave reception... you can hear it, but... jaycee: forget musik jesis: yes Pit Schulz, the Nettime moderator told me about the Berlin situation jaycee: But it would be great to get local pirate radio stations on the internet... nice political twist.. jaycee: Right, a lot an hype and little internal energy... jaycee: But I think that is a content issue -- jesis: when it comes to netradio, you have to really think about what you do. Alot of radio's have no imagination jaycee: plenty of people on the net, but few saying things of importance or substance... jesis: right. This is what we try to do jaycee: So, it would be great not to have to travel to Amsterdam to hear it! jesis: yes but what is content jaycee: Although that would be fun too jaycee: Content? something that moves the soul jaycee: (of course, propaganda is content...) jesis: today I was talking to Rasa about this. What is most important is to avoid stability and a full 24 hour broadcast that leaves no space for experiments jaycee: maybe something that causes a "positeeve vibrashun" as the Rastafarians say jaycee: Actually, you say Patapoe is Pirate -- what does that mean? jaycee: the government hasn't the power to control it? jesis: content is not just the material you choose, but also the way you choose to work. The format, the broadcastingtime jaycee: or it's not a *state* station? jesis: netradio is very tactical media, or it could be jaycee: Yes, I remember the station WGTB in washington DC during the American Indian Movement crises jesis: and it might finally free us from those boring old media formats jaycee: I was young, listening, they were having live coverage of the occupation of some goverment buildings by the armed Indians... for many days, until the FBI came and closed the station... jesis: of course I think very much from the dutch home user situation, as I am one myself jaycee: YEs, most media is in such stupid formats... jaycee: I like watching the C-SPAN tv network here -- where they just set up a camera at some meeting and let it run... jaycee: many different meetings and (not spectacle events, usually just meetings...) jaycee: home user? jesis: Radio Patapoe is one of the tolerated alternative amsterdam pirates. no other dutch city has this jaycee: like the pot smoking rules... jesis: ok, many different conversationthreads here jaycee: yes, I am not concentrated enough, sorry... jesis: home user as contra office user jaycee: oh, right... jesis: home users have to pay per minute they use the phone, it is expensive jaycee: Right -- will that change with a more "open" market? jesis: stoned darlink? jaycee: the fact that the local call is "free" in the US is what drives much of the net development jaycee: me? stoned? nah, not here at my parents home... that would ba a scandal... jesis: I did an interview with this same Felipe, director of xs4all, and he sees netradio in a pink light because of the office users jaycee: explain more jesis: we hope the phonecompany will get competition from the cable for instance, but it is unclear how they will build the interfaces jaycee: right, there is now big competition in the US between Satellite and Cable now, something that just developed in a few months... jesis: Explain? I want to make netradio as condensed as possible, with a lot of editing and mixing, he talks about simply putting radio onlinne the whole day, no matter whats on jaycee: I don't know... now, following the AmericaOnline scandal, the phone companies cannot keep up on demand for new lines, and there is talk for charging for internet time, like you have... jaycee: So you like to have a heavily mixed down proggram with dense information? jesis: about the interfaces, the cablemodems, it is a big mystery what they will allow the home user to send jaycee: well, it tends toward receive and not broadcast... jaycee: the TV paradigm jaycee: Radio Patapoe broadcasts with no schedule at all? Guerilla radio? jesis: I like heavy condensed and almost poetic programs jesis: I got into trouble, not heavily, because of it jaycee: Well, there is a place for that -- things that need LISTENING not background noise jaycee: but many people don't listen... jesis: I made programs for Patapoe but also national radio where Icut up interviews and mixed them with others and with samples from films, documentaries etc. jaycee: there have been programs inthe US like that, but unfortunately the audience is small, so not often... jesis: we have a schedule and we have not. I would like the netradio to be just as free jaycee: like driven by chance jesis: it is not always by choice ;) jaycee: like the Chinese way of auspiciousness jaycee: one will hear the proper thing at the proper time jaycee: it is a law of HEaven and Earth jesis: I don't care too much about the audience. It is unpleasant having to think about them too much. Also I think the audience is underestimated. *** PORT2 (murph@port_1.media.mit.edu) has joined channel #port jaycee: what is Public Radio in the US has a strong folowing jaycee: and they do run some excellent programming, although not as much as they used to... *** Mode change "+o PORT2" on #PORT by jaycee jesis: Even if a listener doesn't listen to the whole show, or is irritated or shit somebody rang my doorbell and I lost my thread jesis: whats driven by chance? jaycee: there you go, REALITY jaycee: somebody selling you magazines? jesis: what that difficult word? *** Signoff: PORT2 (Leaving) jaycee: AUSPICIOUSNESS -- the fact that the right things happen to you at the right time? *** PORT2 (murph@port_1.media.mit.edu) has joined channel #port jaycee: you just have to be open for them? PORT2: this is jennifer @ mit jesis: something like that. That is what I mean with don't underestimate. There is more life out there then you might think jaycee: I don't think it translates well from Chinese to auspiciousness in english ... jesis: hello there Robbin jaycee: right jesis: is that a question or a remark? jaycee: YEs, there is a seething mass of bioplasm out there. jaycee: question? jesis: is that the student radios? jaycee: Yes, they are many times university-based radio jesis: you are talking riddles for me now jaycee: but also community based jaycee: me too, I take a deep breath and slow down jesis: what is going on? *** Mode change "+o PORT2" on #PORT by jaycee jaycee: mediated interference jaycee: or unmediated interference jesis: I am kind of waiting whats happening jaycee: But there are no students, this is just the connections to the MIT gallery you are seeing jaycee: Are you seeing something strange on your machine? jaycee: All is normal here jesis: that is the problem jesis: can be sexy though jaycee: normal sexy or machine sexy jaycee: Speakin jaycee: easy jesis: I am confused from all the login on and of and people amking remarks, or was that you? jaycee: no that was just the operator at the gallery... jesis: it is in between machine and "normal" sexy jaycee: there can possibly others dropping in, but we just speak to each other... ignore the noise jaycee: okay jesis: I really like computerflirts, email mostly, slow and good, but still rather fast jaycee: you have many other tele-relationships? jaycee: I have quite a few... jesis: I have a confession to make :) jaycee: talking to people more or less intimately jaycee: yes jaycee: ? jesis: well, relationships... jaycee: ... jaycee: uhhuh jesis: I found out long after I started working with interviews that I find the way people talk very erotic sometimes. *** PORT3 (murph@port_2.media.mit.edu) has joined channel #port jaycee: well isn't speaking, dialogue a part of the full relationships that people have? jesis: I always fall for men with good talks and the way the tongue makes those tiny clicks inside the mouth, mm jaycee: yes, the hearing with the ear, a sensitive instrument *** Mode change "+o PORT3" on #PORT by jaycee jaycee: I hear you *** murph (artnetwebc@murph.port.net) has joined channel #port jesis: if you get a good connection, your mind becomes ten or thousand times as wide jesis: I love that jesis: so I got the right job jaycee: yes, I always noticced that with an intense dialogue, that there is a folding of space, a tunneling through the material/physical to the Other jaycee: right, having dialogues and getting paid for it! jesis: I like to sit in cafes and listen to people talk in Brittain for instance sometimes jaycee: Yes, mmmm language as instrument jaycee: langauge as carrier jesis: but I can also really enjoy editing an interviewing someone with an intense way of speaking and a nice pronounciation jaycee: sound impinging... jesis: like , don't laugh, Marc Pesce jaycee: You do interviews in Dutch only? jaycee: Right, Mark is a wonderful speaker... jaycee: Very "convincing" and more... *** carmin (murph@port_3.media.mit.edu) has joined channel #port jaycee: have you interviewed him? jesis: I would like to know more about language. Derrick de Kerckhove knows a lot about it, but he is on another track now. Hope to catch him some day jesis: whats impinging jaycee: I find him irritating to listen to, though jaycee: (to impinge -- to impact the surface of something (not negatively)) jaycee: to blend into the surface of jesis: Mark Pesce told me he is a witch. He got very attacked at DEAF 95 jaycee: like sound on the eardrum... jaycee: He got attacked at ISEA 95 also jaycee: part of his words I do not trust at all... Like a used car salesman jesis: It is too bad that many people cannot understand other peoples different language. Religious language is metaforical and beautiful jaycee: but some things are right on... jaycee: Well, it is in the listener, I think jaycee: there is a rigid system of listening (or only hearing, not even listening) jesis: would I talk to Mark Pesce or DerrickDe kerckhove in dutch? jaycee: no, right, I realized that a number of lines ago... jaycee: I always like (need) to go to the dessert here to hear silence jaycee: desert, I mean, not dessert jesis: I have done most of my radioshows in english because I knew so many foreigners jaycee: Yes, the Dutch are good about language, like the Icelanders jesis: there is no silence or desert in Holland jaycee: Yes, that is one thing difficult for me to bear in Europe... jaycee: that is why I spend half my time out here, and the other half in Europe... jesis: yeah there we go again: icelanders. lets not talk about them too much jaycee: I recharge my soul here, and wind up my intellect in Europe... jaycee: whatever... carmin: i want in. jaycee: and so it goes... jesis: looks like you are in dear jaycee: Have you been to the US doing and radio work? jaycee: (the connection is slower) jesis: I have never been to the states, would like to, but have to have good financing for me and my baby to travel jaycee: Did you take her to London last week after all? jesis: nice name carmin carmin: is your baby a child or your partner? jesis: must remember that jaycee: How was the thing with Heath? jesis: aah hot tea jesis: I am slower as well jaycee: (cold? I haven't had me lunch yet... that makes my fingers cool off, lack of food jesis: let me just start telling you how exited I am about next week. the netradiowrokshop jaycee: need to relax the shoulders jaycee: what kind of funding did you get? It sounds quite elaborate, the workshop jaycee: Bringing all those people from Serbia et al jesis: I don't want to talk about H, the conference was ok in that it brought good people together, the format was experimental and thus had its good and bad sides jaycee: I won't mention his name again jaycee: Bringing people together is important jaycee: though jesis: this saturday the people from former yugoslavia arrive jaycee: always jaycee: radio was critical there *** Signoff: carmin (Leaving) *** Signoff: murph (Ping timeout) jesis: one of them is somebody I want to meet very much jesis: \ jaycee: are you teaching them about pirate things or *** carmin (murph@port_3.media.mit.edu) has joined channel #port jaycee: well, I may be in Europe in late spring... jesis: I am not into the funding, there are many different funders, not all certain jaycee: If my back is better, I go to NYC, then Iceland inApril, then on to Helslinki to teach a workshop there in late May, then to Lapland for June... jaycee: then jaycee: ? jesis: did you know that the serbian passport is one of the worst to have at the moment? jaycee: Well, I can imagine... jaycee: The northern Europeans aren't too fond of Serbia these days, except the money-makers jesis: so, sunday there will be a press presentation, organised by Press Now, the people that fight for free media in former yugoslavia jesis: radio still is critical there. it is hard to imagine for us jaycee: Well, with the internet, that has made something of a difference with national borders in conflict situations... Like with the Zapatistas in Mexico jesis: we will try to cooperate and learn from eachother in order to create a new network of possibilties jaycee: Is Press Now a Dutch or pan-European organization? jesis: when is late spring? *** murph (artnetwebc@murph.port.net) has joined channel #port jaycee: late spring -- mid-April? Here that means 25-30C already... jesis: there will be the Nettime meeting in may in Ljubljana, Zagreb and a searesort jaycee: Hmmmm. That is the Second Big Meeting after the first of last year? I'd love to go... It would only be a question of funding... jesis: it seems that the connection that radio B92 has with xs4all is the only internet connection there jaycee: I offered to Geert that I would act as a copy editior at times for Nettime... fixing already-translated papers in English... jesis: due to sanctions, xs4all had to ask for special permission jaycee: Don't they have other email connections -- the students and other protesting groups? jesis: Press Now has people from both sides jesis: I find it hard to be in eastern europe, it gave me a real culture shock once jaycee: Well, if I was in a powerful central government, I would be interested in supressing any internet anything! I would be afraid of it! jesis: you americans have even less of an idea how bad it is there in for instance Rumania. jaycee: Yes, I used to go to East Germany, and that was not pleasant... jesis: People need information, they need culture jaycee: AMericans in general don't even know where Roumania IS! jesis: bread is not the only thing one can live on jesis: the connection is slow, you just made a very late remark about temperatures jesis: looks like you are finally getting a chance to test what a mediated delay does to human contact jaycee: wild, so our connection is THAT slow? I was wondering if you see a mirror of what I am seeing, but I guess not... Strange... that was really mediated... jaycee: I wonder if they are changing routing between the servers each second... jesis: IU will let you be for a while to see if you can catch up jaycee: I am seeing you quite quickly, it seems... jaycee: (although you are silent now...) murph: Jennifer seems to have all three computers up at MIT jesis: no other netconnections in Serbia. Thats how important B92's netradio is *** Signoff: murph (Connection reset by peer) jaycee: You would laugh if you saw the typical American news program... jaycee: hmmm. You there? jesis: are you allright? jaycee: your connection is asleep... it is about seven - ten lines back or more... jaycee: Yes, I am here jaycee: you got this statement: jaycee: You would laugh if you saw the typical American news program... ??? jaycee: deep breath jesis: it is a special connection they have, no telefone connection. Also I think they don't know what it is exactly jaycee: between you and xs4all IRC? #PORT: carmin @PORT3 @PORT2 @jesis @jaycee *** #PORT :End of /NAMES list. jesis: guess your screen looks different then mine, right? jaycee: definitely jaycee: you are still much behind me -- I see your words much before you see mine... How can that be? jesis: the coupling of media has to be far more explored, the noncooperation *** link2.9.2 xs2.xs4all.nl *.hpi.net *** link2.9.2 xs2.xs4all.nl :*.stealth.net *** link2.9.2 xs2.xs4all.nl :*.fi *** link2.9.2 xs2.xs4all.nl :irc.cs.hut.fi *** link2.9.1p16 xs2.xs4all.nl :irc.sci.kun.nl *** link2.9.2+Cr8+Fl3c xs2.xs4all.nl :irc2.sci.kun.nl *** link2.9.2+Cr8+Fl3c xs2.xs4all.nl :*.xs4all.nl jesis: is too much between different media, the fear too? jaycee: We are coupling throuhg Finland, by the way... jaycee: strange, eh? jesis: we have to use the net while it still exists, you have to use media, allof them mixed as much as possible as a second nature, becuasae it is and it will help you be. It is yours. jesis: Nice speech huh? jaycee: Yes, but yes, one needs to ue what is available to reach out... mediated or not. jaycee: to use, I mean jesis: if I saw the typical american news program I would use it for something jesis: I am here yes yes yes jesis: guess waiting for you wasn't such a good idea. you sweating now? ;) jaycee: well, not sweating at all, it's chilly here, but just I am just talking to you as usual, with a shift... jesis: I believe I must keep typing, I type therefore I am jaycee: Actually, the text on the screen here makes sense quite okay, nothing different than other IRC jaycee: I mean, the dyslexic Cocktail party that it is! jaycee: Might as well... jaycee: Keep on keeping on jaycee: I like the fact we are linked through Finland jesis: oops the conversation you react to is beyond my screen, that means it is in an uncomprehensible past! jesis: give me more detailed answers so I know what you say jaycee: long forgotten... *** xs2.xs4all.nl: No such server jesis: yopur the one that is behind me, you silly!! ;) jaycee: Yes, that is one strategy. I will send a copy of a few lines of my screen so that you will see the ordering here and compare it to your end... jesis: this is funny, I completely fucked up this program without knowing it jaycee: jaycee: I like the fact we are linked through Finland jaycee: jesis: oops the conversation you react to is beyond my screen, that means it is in an uncomprehensible past! jaycee: jesis: give me more detailed answers so I know what you say jaycee: jaycee: long forgotten... jesis: so we are coupling? all the more interesting. It is late in the evening and my lover arrives only next saturday jaycee: see there is the internally reflecting mirror... You can look to the posted dialogue later and see how it looks... Actually you can save your text at your end to compare... jesis: looks we are catching up a bit. Yes typing is the answer! jaycee: Well, coupling, that's fun. Through Finland, the chill jaycee: right keep moving jesis: you are still beyond my screen though jaycee: You can do a "start logging" command, probably from the File menu or something like that... jaycee: I like being beyond your screen jesis: I heard the finnish are hard to connect to though, personally, but that is not important jaycee: I like the way it is deconstructing the subjective sense of the dialogue jesis: what are you doing repeating things? jaycee: I have many good Finnish friends, I have heard that observation, but have never expereinced myself... jaycee: Just so you can see how they are joined on my screen -- different than yours... jaycee: Do you want to see the future? I do! jaycee: And your past, which is my nowww. jesis: in the middle of my screen here you say: keep on keeping on jaycee: yes, what the hippies said., keep on keepin on... jesis: three lines or so below that you start repeating jaycee: yes, you will understand when this becomes your present, my past and our present. jesis: I really don't feel like saving anything here, I am glad to just sit and chat jaycee: And, I suspect that in the gallery there is a third, fourth, and fifth form of this dialogue, as they have different timing and erving... jaycee: I like that. jesis: it is very attractive to be out of reach jesis: the things oner can do are new jaycee: Heighten the interest and the challenge. Reaching to touch that which cannot be touched. jesis: it is more like email, which I like so much, ha! jaycee: I guess I need to send you some email these days. eh? jesis: ha you neasrly reached my screen! jaycee: really? jaycee: I am slowly waving my hand fingers outstretched, in the ether jaycee: My hands are very energized after the shiatsu yesterday... jesis: don't get to complicated on me now. this is not my language(past/present/hippies etc jaycee: you are still off my screen jesis: I wonder who is in that gallery jaycee: Hippies are past jesis: I regret a little bit we cannot have any substantial dialogue now jaycee: yes, i also jaycee: regret that we cannot speak through the mediation... jaycee: I find it strange jaycee: it cannot be over-come except we wait for five minutes between each line. jesis: let me tell everyone to log in to the V2 server http://www.v2.nl the 23rd of februari and listen to our broadcast from14.00 till 17.00 dutch time jaycee: If by radio, that would mean we would be 500 times beyond the moon... in distance jaycee: yes, I'll highlight that in your BIO, a link to the V2 server, and here, when I post the dialogue, I will make it an active link in this text jaycee: your daughter sleeps soundly now? jesis: I am loosing track because i was playing with my computer. trying some things jesis: my daughter is sleeping yes jesis: and I am eating jaycee: playing with your computer? while we are in dialogue ? ;) now you are almost sychronized jesis: crackers with poppyseeds and tamari jaycee: Mmmmm. making me hungry. I go to make a burrito when this is finished jesis: hello there, nice to see you again! jaycee: yes jaycee: I feel shifted! jaycee: in and out of space jaycee: them bellyful but them hungry jesis: it is almost like well, asll ends well like in the movies. tears in my eyes jaycee: a hungry man is an angry man jaycee: (peter tosh) jaycee: Gulp.. You crying now? jesis: let me give you a hug! jaycee: not on the keyboard. I like that jaycee: mmm jaycee: I breathe in deep blue, and out orange jesis: we have 15 minutes left jesis: or 16 jaycee: I hum a low tone in your ear jesis: that burrito can wait jaycee: I think we are still shifted...? jesis: nothing wrong with combining testosteron with a bit of adrenaline jaycee: brrrrrrrrommmmmmmmmmmm jesis: I am not so much into reggea jesis: your slowing down again jaycee: I like anything (musik) that is good. No barriers, although some opera carries memories of being wakened early on Saturday morning with my father playing the Metropolitan Opera radio program... jaycee: yes, out of phase again... jesis: take a line from a hardcore techno song next time instead of that slow reggea jaycee: wierd. I feel something is pulling me to the future and to the past at the same time jesis: how is the hardcore dance culture in the states? jaycee: I did a techno clud for ten hours in Londonlast spring. Dancing with most clothes off. Completely wet by 0700 jaycee: I do not know the hardcore inthe US at all, I haven't spent too much time here in the last seven years... jesis: we have kids of 10-12 years old gabbering through school here jaycee: There are many strings in different places.. Guns are more important jesis: I like to play it in my car, speeds it up jaycee: than dances in many places jaycee: Yes, auto sound systems jaycee: Auto, that is jaycee: DIG IT! jesis: lots of you coming in now jesis: well jaycee: When I am in the US, well, I do spend time in NYC, but the Whole city there is a TECHNOclub jaycee: well? jesis: those londoners are too much into ambient though, but perhaps you were lucky jaycee: there are hiccups in the system... jesis: I was out dancing there januari 30th, funny it was jaycee: I looked in the paper there in London, and there were fifty different dance clubs each with a different spin... whatever grooves is my measure... jesis: dancing in between some christmastrees, guys in soldierpants ful of piercings on their naked bodies jesis: pardon? auto is dig it?? jaycee: Yeah. Piercings are the norm here too, but even I see kids now older who are that way -- been around long anough that it is old fashioned... jesis: is that japanese? jaycee: Dig it? that's just english... jesis: everybody stoned out of their heads in that club... on e jaycee: Yeah, e -- we did that in 1980 in engineering school... parties on it... jesis: I have to visit NYC then? jaycee: Why not visit NYC... I used to live there, but it was too much for me after awhile. jaycee: Viiting is fun jaycee: Visiting, that is jaycee: you are off my screen still! jesis: I would like to visit Ny, but have to think of my daughter. Heasrd some fantastic stories from a woman from the german performance group Innen about art dirt radio and their network jaycee: Robbin is the co-host of Art Dirt... jesis: It seems they have 20 people working there in some nice loft, all paid by some millionair. But it could be just a story jaycee: He had me in last spring as guest artist, but that program never made it to the Real Audio archive on the website... March 6th or something jesis: you are on mine dear, so nice.... jaycee: It is true, pirate, but commercial, too jesis: how can I be off your screen if you react so fast? jaycee: one your screen jaycee: on your screen jaycee: I don't know jesis: are you not important enough? try killing Lawrence Weiner! jesis: hey hey jesis: it is nearly ten oclock here that went really fast jaycee: Well, I did party with him, also in Helsinki in 95 for a week, he' killing himself with expensive drink and cigars and girls jaycee: Yes it is... jesis: hope you enjoyed it( teh wrong thing to ask) was it as good for you..... jaycee: time flies in the face of all meaning and being jaycee: yes, dear, it was good for me, too... I Light a cigarette and lean back, go get some lunch, then come back and look at your profile here on paper jesis: screens! we love them jesis: my profile? jesis: the sounds of computers are so nice jesis: so subtle jaycee: If we both had atomic synchronized clocks, we could.... jaycee: tap tap tap. I touch the keys jesis: its 22.00 here jaycee: 13:59:39 jesis: here comes your lunch jaycee: You ARE ahead of me... jesis: and i can see whther my Slovenian angel has written me jaycee: Well. So there you have it. Dialogue number two. I am jealous jesis: of course I am ahead of you jesis: guess I am dominant after all jaycee: only two lines now jaycee: I am fluxus jaycee: my operator jesis: I must hurry then jesis: he has pink hair jaycee: Okay Josephine. Thanks for everything, we can be in TOUCH by your favorite means jaycee: EMAIL jesis: do you mean I have to stop this? jaycee: and I go for a haircut tomorrow. Cut it all off. Delilah jaycee: DON"T Stop! *** The date is: Wednesday February 12 1997 -- 13:02 -08:00 jesis: thank you too, it was weird for a while but nice jesis: not much heavy talk though jaycee: next time! jesis: okay, I won't stop. Why not? jaycee: we save the heavy talk for a beer in Am"dam jaycee: or NYC carmin: time to wrap it up at port . . . jaycee: G'nite Carmin... This'll be posted on my web site later this evening... jesis: theres mother jaycee: I thought it was AMY in the gallery... jesis: yes good night. jaycee: And papa has to use the phone here... *** Signoff: carmin (Leaving) jaycee: I always find saying good bye is difficult with a delay! jesis: you leave first or does it not matter? *** PORT3 is murph@port_2.media.mit.edu (Robbin Murphy) *** PORT3 is on channels @#PORT *** on irc via server *.stealth.net ([ircd.stealth.net] Stealth - New York, USA) *** PORT3 :End of /WHOIS list. jesis: so true *** PORT2 is murph@port_1.media.mit.edu (Robbin Murphy) *** PORT2 is on channels @#PORT *** on irc via server *.stealth.net ([ircd.stealth.net] Stealth - New York, USA) *** PORT2 :End of /WHOIS list. *** jesis is jesis@xs2.xs4all.nl (jesis) *** jesis is on channels @#PORT *** on irc via server *.xs4all.nl ([irc.xs4all.nl] XS4ALL, Networking for the Masses) *** jesis :End of /WHOIS list. jesis: be well *** jaycee is hopkins@ip229.prc.primenet.com (John Hopkins) *** jaycee is on channels @#PORT *** on irc via server irc.aimnet.com (Aimnet Corporation - California, USA) *** jaycee has been idle for 43 seconds *** jaycee :End of /WHOIS list. jaycee: you too, love jesis: hope you will visit yr son jaycee: I will, soon, In april jaycee: and July jaycee: Ice Land jaycee: sleep well *** Signoff: PORT2 (Leaving) jaycee: bye (I can't log off...) my fingers don't seem to allow this. in the silence jesis: hey I go first or what? jaycee: okay, do it... I can't bear it... jaycee: later! jesis: kiss! jaycee: mmm *** Signoff: jesis (Leaving) jaycee: over PORT3: ciao *** Signoff: PORT3 (Leaving) *** Signoff: jaycee (Leaving) *** #PORT :End of /NAMES list. *** The date is: Wednesday February 12 1997 - 13:15 -08:00 |
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