neoscenes: supper: logfile

Log file opened at: 28.5.1998 15:31:55
Session Start: Thu May 28 08:04:11 1998
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osea: hey jaceee
jaceee: hi
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osea: good afternoon.
jaceee: HALLO OSEA!
jaceee: okay, you are there! Cool
jaceee: I had not been monitoring the channel for awhile -- running around faxing et al
osea: hey jaceee -- if I want to change my chat id to gossamer -- how do I do that?
jaceee: some students are doing a 90 min live teevee program this afternoon, and my class is involved
jaceee: gee
osea: live TV -- local cable or something?
jaceee: in MIRC, uh, not sure -- there is a properties or options window
jaceee: local cable and broadcast
jaceee: where you fill in your nick -- oh wait a minute
osea: cool -- are they in a new media or communication class?
jaceee: they have a television studio (full tilt digital one here)!
osea: oh -- before I forget -- I'm logging this today. but please send me our first chat log.
jaceee: okay, in your regular writing window, type /nick newnick
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jaceee: sorry , I spaced it, I put it on my analog list of stuff to do right now...
osea: cool!
jaceee: there ya go...
jaceee: I can copy a list of commands like that to you also...
osea: so anyway I'm excited about our performance.
osea: yes the commands too --- good!
osea: Oh and 1 more thang -- I'm meeting Jordan Crandall for coffee this morning -- he's here in town. So I have to leave you round 9:00.
Session Close: Thu May 28 08:22:46 1998
Session Start: Thu May 28 08:22:59 1998
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jaceee: Oh, Jordan... I was to have a dinner with him once, but he cancelled... heywow, you got booted!
osea: hey -- it took me a while to realize I was booted...
jaceee: I think somebody had your nick
osea: I can't use gossamer...
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jaceee: and the original person had been on longer, so you were canned
osea: someone else has that name.
jaceee: or something like that, I didn;'t understand the error mesage * #llaky is being logged
osea: so about the performance...
osea: Our performance....
osea: I was thinking about your notion or dialogue as revolution...
jaceee: uh yeah
jaceee: uhhuh
osea: and it seems that passion would lead to revolution
jaceee: yes, passion is a key form of energy
osea: so topics that we are both passionate about would be good
jaceee: that can lead each direction
jaceee: i'm passionate about dialogue
jaceee: ;)
osea: yes, but if there were a topic that we saw eye2eye on for most points, but diverged on some points
osea: that would be idea -- don;t you think?
jaceee: oh shit, my powerbook is out of power, and I don't have my adapter, gads, technology, I may have to restart on the next machine
jaceee: sorry
jaceee: yeah, what do you have in mind?
osea: no problem I'll wait 4 u & your tech...
jaceee: always something, I am starting another machine now
osea: i dunno -- if i knew you better, we would have had lots of late night talks & I would pick one of our hot topics.
jaceee: yeah, therein is the risk (one form of it!
jaceee: we just have to hunt quickly...
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jaceeee: here I am ransformed
osea: cool...
jaceeee: transformed
jaceeee: the powerbook is still runing
jaceeee: running
jaceeee: ouch, a different keyboard
osea: so anyway what are you passionate about?
jaceeee: hmmm
jaceeee: I am passionate about finding the principles behind things
osea: I'm going to think alot about this & send you food 4 thought via email.
jaceeee: great
jaceeee: seeking basic knowings
osea: principles -- that's good -- our value systems are bound to be different.
jaceeee: actually like to find the place where they begin to diverge
osea: yes, our golas are similar, but our reasons & ways & perspectives are most likely to vary.
jaceeee: like languages -- the tower of babel and all hat
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jaceeee: that
osea: diverge -- yes that sparking / splitting point.
jaceeee: can you type /mode jaceeee +o
osea: i did
osea: at first i didn't notice the extra 'e'
jaceeee: oh wait, /mode #llaky jaceeee +o
osea: are you here?
osea: ok
jaceeee: yeah
jaceeee: I just had to ref the command list, I never remember the syntaxes
jaceeee: that should op the new me
jaceeee: I noticed my powerbook crashed and burned
osea: yep -- why remember that which can be easily ref'd?
jaceeee: right-o
osea: hey -- those wireless mouse devices crash & burn when they run out of power too.
jaceeee: hmmm didja type that?
osea: so anyway --- passionate things.
jaceeee: it didnt take
osea: the point of diversion
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jaceeee: branchings
jaceeee: roots
osea: i did, but i'll type it again.
jaceeee: rhizomatic linkages
jaceeee: copy paste if you can
jaceeee: unless I screwed the syntax
osea: i copied & pasted too.
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jaceeee: oh well. But these things might become important in a performative situation... Also the changing of channels on short notice
osea: you screwed up, my friend
jaceeee: there you go! thanks, nothing like gettin opped
jaceeee: what did I miss?
osea: but I'm borg so if it's code I can figure it out...
jaceeee: do it!
osea: you had the '+o' behind the name rather than in front of your name.
jaceeee: I chewed Fortran on Dec mainframes, hated every minute of it in eng school
osea: I liked fortran -- but I was a math & compsci major...
jaceeee: the ref page is ambiguous, and the Mac interface they have it hard wired with buttons so you don't have to get dirty hands! ;)
osea: I loved pascal.
osea: What? can't touch hardware? I wouldn't like that at all. Hardware turns me on.
jaceeee: I was a geophysicist, and couldn't/can't cope with the accuracy of programming, only dealing with orders of magnitude
jaceeee: Well, I like tinkering with machines, but more the mechanical kind, usta fry chips in ee lab. too
osea: what b a geophysicist...
osea: frying my little buddies -- my you're a sadist too?
jaceeee: well, somebody who uses a variety of remotesensing techniques to fid things under the earths surface
osea: cool -- tinker tools. I would like that.
jaceeee: well, frying by accident... we had a grad student prof who had never taught before and knew nothing about ee
jaceeee: my dad had a great shop and was an early telecom person at MIT and other places, JPL, and OTP
jaceeee: so stuff was always around
osea: I'm over protective with hardware -- the dimeter (mother goddess) in me comes out with technology.
osea: so you lived in this are for a while?
jaceeee: in technology area? yeah. my dad is a life member of IEEE, and I was meant to be cloned until I wigged in his eyes
osea: Yikes -- time's zippin' by -- should we plan a dry run, rehersal thang?
jaceeee: well, lessee, what about a next meeting? when I can concentrate better
osea: My husband is an ieee lifer, he has a msee from BU
osea: OK -- what day?
jaceeee: ah hah. So we are in certain orbits
jaceeee: of significant others
osea: always
jaceeee: and selves
jaceeee: We definitely need to test on the evening before and day of
jaceeee: but what about this coming weekend?
jaceeee: and/or next week
osea: hey do you know I've been married for 22.5 years & have a 14 yr old daughter & 11 yr old son?
jaceeee: I will be in Kiel, Germany next week, with a lousier connection, but that is a good test anyway
jaceeee: uh, no, sounds like something to be proud of, though, in this world!
osea: Ok -- this weekend AND next week work for me. The more time we spend together the better I think.
jaceeee: yes, I agree, mapping nd acting on what we are professing to speak about!
jaceeee: well, what about tomorrow afternoon (morning for you)?
osea: so they say, but honestly -- I'm not that into the mom stuff, but my husband wanted children & he's a wonderful husband & father.
jaceeee: I think I will be dancing tonight with the fine lady I was dancing with last weekend, cool!
jaceeee: well, families are families, I miss my kid
osea: OK Firday AM -- tomorrow same time & place right?
jaceeee: sounds good!
osea: You're a dad too?
jaceeee: yeah, got a 5.75 year old
jaceeee: inIceland
osea: girl or boy?
jaceeee: we spend 3 months or so a year together
jaceeee: boy, named Loki Alexander
jaceeee: I dig kids
osea: Loki, you've mentioned him-- but I didn't know who it was.
osea: must be weird to travel so much & see your blood so little.
jaceeee: he's in Denmark and Sweden now with his mother, and I pick him up in Stockholm...
osea: so I take it you & mom are no longer an item, as they say...
jaceeee: yeah, but when we are together, we are tighter than most fathers, for sure
jaceeee: right, we can tolerate each other to the point of cohabitating for two or three weeks at a time when I am in Iceland
jaceeee: so, it could be worse
osea: that's better than some...
jaceeee: yeah
osea: hmmm, thi sis good -- getting to know each other better. better living thru...
osea: Hey -- you planted some sweet seedlings the other day --
jaceeee: I laugh everytime I see your sig -- it's nice
osea: 2 things you said have stayed in my head.
jaceeee: yes..
osea: "you are my Other" is one I I just spaced on the other...
jaceeee: a beatles song ;)
osea: a beatles song?
jaceeee: no, kidding
osea: I wasn't into the beatles...
jaceeee: or no, I am kiddding
jaceeee: me only Lennon
jaceeee: and Marley
jaceeee: and Coltrane
jaceeee: and Fela
osea: anyway, it may have been an experiencial thang -- not necessarily 'words'
jaceeee: the phrase, I think, is something extracted from a scenario, a script somehow, that is what I am thnnking now
osea: like the conversation around 'connectedness' natural attraction, etc.
jaceeee: I mean, I said it, but the context is an action rather than a phrase,
jaceeee: yeah things that are rooted in actions
osea: anyway something lingers -- that is good. It can lead to quite an electric dialogue.
jaceeee: and that edge between word and action
jaceeee: hmm, I am thinking now
jaceeee: that line to walk
jaceeee: where action and word burn together
osea: yes -- i love edges.
osea: sharp edges, fuzzy edges, all interfaces.
jaceeee: dancing on perimeters of the void, that is a metaphor I have often drawn on in teaching
jaceeee: interface, connection, yeah
osea: oooo, I love it. you know I love to dance & then the perimeter too!
jaceeee: razor, torn papers
jaceeee: so there we have it!
osea: even soft fractal edges...
jaceeee: gee, this is a nice thing, Carmin
jaceeee: meeting
osea: yes -- I like you very much.
jaceeee: things like this are so strange and so normal
jaceeee: funny the turning point of PORT
osea: I'm amazed at these linkages. PORT was so good for me.
jaceeee: I entered all that orbit by happening on the artnetweb site and writing to Robbin, who I connected with well
osea: My life has improved greatly due to techin' @ PORT.
jaceeee: I was doing a workshop at Holy Cross then
osea: yes, Rob-- murph the surf, he's great.
jaceeee: well, we were lucky to have you there!
jaceeee: because the wrong kind of person could ruin things
osea: Remo never let's me forget that I saved his butt.
osea: ruin things?
jaceeee: a person who understands the broader humane action of NETWORK
jaceeee: well, reduce issues into tech
jaceeee: and stuff like that
osea: oh i guess so, but much of the work was pure techno geek stuff.
jaceeee: summer shower outside the window here, chill air still
jaceeee: well, the wedding of knowledge and feeling
jaceeee: sleet, not rain
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jaceeee: hmmm
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